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Nora Notes's avatar

I'm not sure we can say that to end all these needless debates, everyone should just change their minds and settle on the solutions that I consider to be the best ones. Let's all be a bit honest here and say that the left wing is never going to drop M4A. Why would they? It's popular for its base, it serves as a defining factional wedge, and you just don't maintain a policy position for 10+ years only to drop it when the momentum finally gets hot. That being said, this provides perfectly fertile ground for center-leaning candidates to propose a public option as the more pragmatic direction. The left will, likely, ultimately accept this compromise (as shown by AOC), but there is simply no universe where they are the ones heading to the middle first.

Plus - Biden claimed he was in favor of a public option during the 2020 campaign and then proceeded to ditch the idea once in office. Voters might be thinking to themselves, who can really trust any of this? They won't do it anyway!

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Reading this and generally agreeing with it, I nonetheless have three major responses:

1. It reminds me of my deep dislike of Bernie Sanders. Separate from my policy and sloganeering disagreements, which are many, he is just a harmfully dishonest guy. He and members of his 2020 campaign have said, on the record, multiple times, that they all knew M4A was a pipe dream, unrealistic as proposed, and never going to happen. That that doesn’t stop him and his faction from attacking anyone who doesn’t fully endorse the same plan; which again, HE HIMSELF HAS SAID WAS IMPOSSIBLE is just such horseshit and everyone needs to know about it regardless of how they feel about M4A as a plan.

2. I disagree pretty strongly with your framing of the “a better way to debate” section. Maybe you’re right that the public watching a debate or whatever would be annoyed by a “how are you going to pay for it” response to M4A. But that doesn’t change that it’s objectively a fair question with an answer that is relevant for the public!

Yes, it’s true that we are spending a ton of money on a war in Iran that is entirely stupid. It’s ALSO true that last year Medicare was more expensive than the military. If someone is proposing taking a ~trillion dollar per year program and tripling its size while expanding its benefits…you’re damn right the pay-for matters!

And that goes doubly for anyone saying they won’t raise taxes on anyone below the 96th percentile of income because that person is simply lying to your face.

Yeah, maybe this is all too wonky and the average person’s eyes will glaze over. But my bold take is that people don’t love taxes and people don’t like being lied to by candidates. And if you are dogmatic about M4A, you’re either raising taxes on a ton of people or you’re lying to…a ton of people.

3. You claim for the electorate is, “hungry for change in the health care system.” Which *feels* true. People do seem unhappy about healthcare. But you not in this very same article 70% of people would rather keep their current healthcare than switch to a government run plan. So…are they actually that hungry for change if the context for that change means more government healthcare? Seems like…no.

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